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What Warren Buffett said about IQ, traced to the record

ACIS has never assessed Warren Buffett, holds no record belonging to him, and no retrospective assessment of anyone is possible. No IQ score of his own appears in the sources searched. What exists is a dated record of how he talks about IQ: 125 in 2005, 150 in 2009 and 160 in 2011, plus a famous 160 versus 130 line whose occasion this review could not locate.

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Berkshire Hathaway's letter for 2025 reports a compounded annual gain of 19.7 percent in per-share market value from 1965 to 2025, against 10.5 percent for the S&P 500 with dividends.

0 The short answer

Warren Buffett has never published an IQ score, and no test result for him appears in any source searched here, so every single number attached to his name is an estimate with no source. What he did say, repeatedly and on the record for decades, is that investing does not need a high IQ: he put the level at 125 in 2005 and 150 in 2009, and he named 160 in a 2011 interview, each time telling an audience that the points above a modest level can be thrown away or sold. The best known version, the guy with the 160 IQ who does not beat the guy with the 130 IQ, is printed in a 1997 book, and its occasion could not be found in the transcripts searched. Read these remarks as one practitioner's opinion about temperament, not as a measured result and not as evidence of his own score.

125, 150, 160

The IQ levels Buffett named when he said points can be thrown away or sold: the 2005 and 2009 Berkshire annual meetings and a 2011 interview in India.

2 of 48

Letters to shareholders, 1977 to 2024, that contain the letters IQ: the letters for 2007 and 2016.

19.7 percent

Compounded annual gain in Berkshire per-share market value from 1965 to 2025, against 10.5 percent for the S&P 500 with dividends.

1 Has Warren Buffett ever given an IQ number for himself?

No source searched for this page contains an IQ score for Warren Buffett, from a test or from his own mouth, and the places most likely to hold one were searched in full. The searched material was the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting transcripts in the CNBC Warren Buffett Archive (the session transcripts for 1994 to 2020 and 2022 to 2024 that carry text), and all 48 of his letters to shareholders posted on Berkshire's letters page for 1977 to 2024. The words IQ or I.Q. occur dozens of times in the transcripts and in two of the letters. Not one occurrence reports a score for him.

Two passages come closest, and neither is a number. At the 2015 meeting his partner Charlie Munger joked that Buffett got by with a "horrible deficit of IQ" compared with Henry Singleton of Teledyne, whom Munger called much smarter than either of them, and Buffett cut in to ask that they not quantify it (2015 morning session). In 2022 he described his younger self as someone who was "intensely interested" in stocks, who "had a decent IQ" and who read and thought about them for years before one paragraph in Benjamin Graham's book changed how he looked at them (2022 morning session). A qualitative self-description of that kind cannot be converted into a score on any scale.

The absence is a finding about these sources, not a proof about the world. A private school record or an employer screening could exist and be unpublished. What can be said is narrower: no such document has been cited by anyone this review could find, and the pages that print a figure give no test, date or examiner. A claim about a person's IQ needs the same three details as any other measurement. Without them, a figure is a claim with nothing behind it.

ACIS has not tested Warren BuffettACIS has never assessed Warren Buffett and holds no record belonging to him. Nothing on this page estimates his score. Where the page uses numbers such as 125, 150 or 160, they are numbers he or other people said or wrote, and each is attributed to the occasion where it was said. The page never infers an IQ from his wealth, his career or his habits.

2 Where do the figures attached to his name come from?

The figures that circulate for Buffett are either unsourced estimates or misreadings of his own rhetorical numbers, and none of them names a test. Searching for his IQ returns pages that list 150, 155 or "over 150", and others that say he needs only 130. Each was opened on October 6, 2026, and the basis it states is reproduced below, because the basis is what decides whether a figure is evidence.

FigureWhere it appearsBasis the page statesWhat the record shows
150A celebrity listing on Sociosite headed "IQ 150"None. The page text turns to his temperament and quotes the number 130No test, date or examiner is named
155A History Tools article dated March 27, 2024"Expert estimates, interviews with those close to him, and inferences from his life's work"No expert, interview or document is named
Over 150A Boss Hunting article dated August 22, 2023The wording is "reportedly", with no sourceNothing to check
130A CNBC Make It article of October 12, 2017, and pages that repeat itA reading of the line about the guy with the 160 IQ and the guy with the 130 IQAn illustration inside a comparison, not a cutoff he set

The CNBC article is worth reading closely, because it is where many readers meet the 130. It reports that Buffett says there is a specific IQ score you need to succeed, 130, and it supports that with the quotation from the book Warren Buffett Speaks. The quotation compares two people, one with a 160 IQ and one with a 130 IQ. It does not name 130 as a requirement. In the meeting transcripts he named 125 in 2005 and 150 in 2009. The 130 in the article is the reporter's gloss, and the next sections show why a single required score does not fit anything he said.

ACIS has covered other business figures the same way. The pages on Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos each examine where a circulating number for that founder came from. Buffett differs in one respect. For those founders a number circulates and the question is its origin. For Buffett no number has an origin to find, and the documented material is a set of sentences about IQ numbers in general. The broader pages on celebrity IQ numbers and their sources and on why no highest IQ can be verified explain why that distinction matters.

3 What did Buffett say about IQ at Berkshire annual meetings?

Across 13 annual meetings between 1995 and 2022 Buffett used IQ as an illustration and never as a measurement, and the level he named moved from one occasion to the next. The Berkshire meetings are the best primary record because they run for hours, the questions come from shareholders and journalists, and CNBC publishes the transcripts session by session. The table lists the occasions that matter most. The wording is quoted only where it can be quoted without alteration, and otherwise summarized, because the transcripts are spoken language. Each year and session links to its transcript.

Meeting and sessionWhat Buffett said about IQOccasion
1995, afternoonAsked rhetorically whether the success of Rose Blumkin, founder of Nebraska Furniture Mart, needed "a 220 IQ", and answered no, adding that she was very smartWhy business schools do not study ordinary habits of success
1996, morningSaid that identifying and keeping managers does not need "150 IQ or anything", only sensitivity to why people want to do their workBerkshire's two jobs, allocating capital and choosing managers
1998, morningSaid it is better to have "a hundred IQ" when everyone else has an 80 than to have 140 when all the rest also have 140, and called weak competition "the secret of life"Whether better managers would raise returns on equity
1999, morningSaid the average IQ of the top 16 people at Long-Term Capital Management would probably be "as high or higher" than in any organization one could findWhy Berkshire's bid for that firm failed
2002, morning"The most important thing in investments is not having a high IQ, thank God." Also: "a great IQ is not needed", and he had seen "relatively little correlation between investment results and IQ"A question on whether great investors are made or born
2004, morningSaid people with identical IQs can be better adapted to one kind of work than another, that "the temperament is all important", and that the work "does require extraordinary discipline"Whether reading widely is enough
2005, morningSaid the work "requires qualities of temperament way more than it requires qualities of intellect", and that above 125 IQ one can "throw away the rest of the points"Advice to a young person starting out
2009, morning"Sell 30 points to somebody else" if you have an IQ of 150, because "you do not need to be a genius" and "it can hurt"What an investor needs to learn
2016, afternoonSaid the investment business does not need "the IQ" that some activities in life need, but does need "emotional control"Recognizing what you cannot do
2017, morningDescribed the agony of seeing a neighbor with "an IQ about 30 points below you" get richer in a boom, and said people with "120 IQs or 140 IQs" can differ in whether they have a money mindSpeculation, and what Berkshire's next manager needs
2018, afternoonSaid the work "does not require a super IQ or anything of the sort", and that he would hire a bright graduate who has absorbed chapter eight of The Intelligent Investor over a top graduate who has notBusiness school and hiring
2020, question sessionSaid "IQ does not always translate into rationality and behavioral success or wisdom" and that he knows extraordinarily wise people who would not be in the top three on an IQ testA question on Benjamin Graham as one of the smartest people he had known
2022, morningSaid that profiting from mispriced businesses does not take a high IQ, only "the right attitude"Speculation and mispriced businesses

Three features of the table matter more than any single row. First, the cutoff moves. He said 125 in 2005 and 150 in 2009, and in other sessions he reached for 140 (2000), 160 (1998 and 2015) and 180 as round numbers. A man reporting a result does not change the result from year to year. A man using a figure of speech does.

Second, the high numbers are rhetorical. In the afternoon session of 2002 he said one does not need "a 200 IQ" to see a speculative period and work out how to move wealth from other people to oneself (2002 afternoon session). In 2012 he credited an understanding of how people behave for giving Berkshire an edge over people with "IQs of 180" who can do mathematics he could not (2012 afternoon session). The arithmetic later on this page, and the page on what an IQ of 160 means, show that 200 and 220 describe rarities beyond any real population, so those numbers work as figures of speech.

Third, he never says intelligence is irrelevant. In 2009 he said an investor needs to be reasonably intelligent. In 2005, in an answer about benefits for older people, he said that someone "wired with an I.Q. of 85" would not do remotely as well in a market economy as he and Charlie Munger do (2005 afternoon session). His claim is narrower than the slogan: above a modest level, extra points do not buy a decisive edge in one activity. The pages on IQ and success and IQ and job performance cover the general evidence that a slogan cannot settle.

4 What did he say about IQ in letters, lectures and interviews?

Outside the meetings Buffett's IQ remarks are scarcer and mostly confirm the meeting record, with one document, the 1998 Florida lecture, adding the clearest statement of what he thinks IQ is for. The letters hold the least. A search of the 48 letters posted for 1977 to 2024 finds IQ in only two. The letter for 2007, signed February 2008, uses a joke he attributes to Molly Ivins about a politician's IQ to describe his own lapse in turning down a television station purchase. The letter for 2016, signed February 25, 2017, uses IQ twice. In one place he repeats a line from Munger that it is great to have a manager with a 160 IQ unless the manager thinks the number is 180. In another, in a passage comparing index funds with funds of hedge funds, he writes that smart people run hedge funds but their efforts are largely self-neutralizing and "their IQ will not overcome the costs they impose on investors." Neither letter gives a number for himself.

The 1998 lecture is richer. On October 15, 1998 he spoke to MBA students at the University of Florida, and a transcript is hosted by Tilson Funds. He opened by telling the students that they all had "the IQ to do well", but that success depends on more than intellect and energy. He then asked them to imagine buying 10 percent of one classmate's lifetime earnings and posed the question "Will you give them an IQ test and pick the one with the highest IQ?" before answering "I doubt it." The qualities he listed instead, leadership, honesty and generosity, he described as behavior, temperament and character that anyone in the room could achieve. Later in the same lecture he said 16 of the senior people at Long-Term Capital Management had about as high an IQ as any 16 people working together in one business in the country, and that risking what you have and need for something you do not need is foolish regardless of IQ. The transcript's provenance is a limit. Tilson Funds hosts it as a PDF, and the document does not say who produced the text.

Two interviews fill in the rest. In 1985 he told the television host George Goodman that one needs enough IQ "to get from here to downtown Omaha" but not the ability to play "three-dimensional chess", and that the work needs a stable personality. That wording is taken from a CNBC report on the interview published September 22, 2019, not from the broadcast, which this review did not see. In 2011, in an interview in India, an audience member asked whether his success came from intelligence or discipline. According to a transcript on Farnam Street, which this review read but whose video it did not view, he said an investor with a 160 IQ should "sell 30 points to somebody else", that the right temperament is what matters, that "the 160s" will not necessarily beat "the 130s", and that they "do not have a big edge." That interview is the occasion where 160, rather than 150, appears in the sell-the-points version.

Finally, there is a magazine compilation. BusinessWeek Online of July 5, 1999 printed a page of Buffett sayings edited by Amey Stone, drawn from reporter Anthony Bianco's notes of private conversations, speaking engagements and press conferences during four days beside him. Those are notes, not transcripts, so the wording is the reporter's record of what was said. The page matters for two reasons covered next: it contains a sentence about ordinary intelligence and temperament that later gets spliced into the famous line, and it records his remark that he "won the ovarian lottery".

5 Is the line about the 160 IQ and the 130 IQ a real quotation?

The sentence about the guy with the 160 IQ and the guy with the 130 IQ is printed in a 1997 book as Buffett's, but its occasion is not shown in any text this review could read, and the form most pages repeat is a splice of two different sources. The sentence is "Investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beats the guy with a 130 IQ. Rationality is essential." It appears more than once in Janet Lowe's Warren Buffett Speaks, published by John Wiley in 1997. This review could read only search snippets of the Internet Archive's lendable copy. Those snippets show the sentence and its endnote markers, and they show that the book's endnotes cite sources such as Berkshire annual meetings and Outstanding Investor Digest, but they did not show the note for this line.

The transcripts do not repair that gap. The CNBC transcripts of the 1994, 1995 and 1996 meetings, the three before the book's publication, contain no sentence pairing a 160 IQ with a 130 IQ. The phrase "160 IQs" appears in the 1998 and 2015 sessions, but in other contexts: first about people who built the year 2000 problem, and later about dysfunctional people Buffett and Munger had met. So the line may come from an interview, a talk or a paraphrase. As worded, no source located here shows him saying it.

The version most readers see adds a second sentence. It reads "Once you have ordinary intelligence, what you need is the temperament to control the urges that get other people into trouble in investing." That sentence comes from the BusinessWeek compilation of 1999, where it follows a different sentence, that success in investing does not correlate with IQ above a certain level. The archived page prints that level as 25, which is almost certainly a dropped digit, because later reprints give 125 and Buffett used 125 at the 2005 meeting. Pages that join the 1997 sentence to the 1999 sentence, such as the Farnam Street page on temperament, print a composite that appears in neither source.

Version in circulationEarliest source foundWho is recorded saying itStatus
The guy with the 160 IQ does not beat the guy with a 130 IQ; rationality is essentialLowe, Warren Buffett Speaks, 1997Buffett, per the bookAttributed in print, occasion not located
Above a modest IQ, ordinary intelligence plus the temperament to control the urgesBusinessWeek Online, July 5, 1999Buffett, per a reporter's notesAttributed from notes, not a transcript
The two sentences joined into one quotationWeb pages without a stated occasionNo one, as one utteranceA composite
Above 125 IQ, throw away the rest of the pointsBerkshire annual meeting, 2005BuffettTranscript
With an IQ of 150, sell 30 points to somebody elseBerkshire annual meeting, 2009BuffettTranscript
With a 160 IQ, sell 30 points; the 160s do not have a big edge over the 130sInterview in India, 2011BuffettTranscript on Farnam Street, video not viewed
Thinking your IQ is 160 when it is 150 is a disaster, and a 130 who works well within himself is betterBerkshire annual meeting, 2009Munger, not BuffettTranscript
A manager with a 160 IQ is great unless he thinks it is 180Berkshire letter for 2016Buffett, quoting MungerLetter

The last two rows show how the confusion can grow. At the 2009 meeting Munger, in the same session where Buffett said to sell 30 points, remarked that thinking your IQ is 160 when it is 150 is a disaster, and that a 130 who operates well within himself is much better. This review does not claim those remarks created the 160 versus 130 pairing, since the book of 1997 came first. They show how easily different speakers' numbers get stirred into one quotation.

The accurate summary is short. The idea is Buffett's, and his 2011 remark about "the 160s" and "the 130s" is a softer, transcribed form of it. The exact sentence is attributed to him in a 1997 compilation. The composite is not a quotation. Anyone citing the line should name Lowe's book and say its occasion is unknown.

6 What does he say matters more than IQ, and what does he say he does not know?

Buffett names temperament, rationality, realism and discipline as what matters in investing, and he says in his own words that he does not know whether that temperament is born or learned. The terms change from year to year, so it helps to collect them. In 2002 he called "realism and discipline" the important thing. In 2004 he said "the temperament is all important" and that "it does require extraordinary discipline". In 2009 he asked for "emotional stability" and "inner peace" about one's decisions, plus the ability to "think for yourself". In 2016 he put it as "emotional control". In 2011 he described the needed trait as the ability to detach from other people's opinions and to look at the facts of a business unaffected by what others think. These are one idea described several ways: the capacity to act on your own reading of the facts when a crowd, or your own mood, pulls the other way.

The origin of that capacity is where his answers become cautious. In 2002 an audience member argued that great investors are made, not born. Buffett largely agreed, but about the detachment itself he said he did not know to what extent it is innate and to what extent it is learned, and that certain matters of temperament "may be innate" and "may be learned" and may be intensified by experience (2002 morning session). In 2009 he repeated that he did not know how much of it is innate and how much can be taught (2009 morning session). A reader who takes the slogan that temperament beats IQ as a settled finding is therefore ahead of the man who said it.

What he does claim about learning is specific and biographical. In the same 2002 answer he said that from age 11 to 19 he read every investing book he could find and did not do well at all, and that reading Benjamin Graham's book in 1949 at the University of Nebraska changed his view of investing. He offered that as evidence that he learned his approach and was not simply born with it, and the transcript records "the proof is in my record" as his own words. That is testimony about one person's path. It is not a comparison group, and he did not claim it was.

He also describes a mental skill that is separate from general ability, which he calls a "money mind". In 2004 he attributed the phrase "money mind" to the investor Phil Carret and said he would call it a business mind. In 2017 he said people can have "120 IQs or 140 IQs" and similar scores on intelligence tests, yet some have minds good at one kind of thing and some at another, and that he has known very bright people who do not have money minds and make unintelligent decisions (2017 morning session). In 2019 he said the same thing about specialties: some people have what he calls a "money mind" and this is not mainly a question of IQ (2019 afternoon session). Our reading is that he is reaching for the distinction between general ability and narrower abilities, which the page on the CHC model explains.

Three limits keep the section honest. First, Buffett is reporting what he and Munger have seen. The sample is the people they have worked with and watched, and he does not claim a count or a comparison. Second, temperament as he uses it is not the construct that research calls emotional intelligence, which the page on emotional intelligence versus IQ treats separately, and it is not the same as the personality traits that correlate with IQ. Third, the word wisdom, which he also uses in 2020, is a different idea again, covered on the page on intelligence versus wisdom. This page recommends no investment method and takes no view on any of them.

7 What do an IQ of 130 and an IQ of 160 mean on the standard scale?

On a scale with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15, an IQ of 130 is reached by about 1 person in 44 and an IQ of 160 by about 1 in 31,574, while the 200 and 220 he used in passing describe rarities beyond any real population. The table is our arithmetic on the normal curve, not a statistic from any test or from any study of Buffett. The gap between a 130 and a 160 is 30 points, or two standard deviations, which is why the quotation is a strong claim and not a trivial one.

IQ namedWhere Buffett or a quoted speaker used itStandard deviations from the meanShare at or aboveAbout 1 in
852005, the IQ of someone "wired" differently for a market economy1.0 below84.1 percent1.2
1001998, the "hundred IQ" in the securities market comparison050 percent2
1252005, the level above which points can be thrown away1.67 above4.8 percent21
130The 1997 book line and the 2011 interview2.0 above2.3 percent44
1402000 and 1998, groups of people with 140 IQs2.67 above0.38 percent261
1502009, "sell 30 points"3.33 above0.043 percent2,331
160The 1997 book line, 1998, 2011, 20154.0 above0.0032 percent31,574
1802012, and the line from Munger in the 2016 letter5.33 above0.000005 percentabout 20.7 million
2002002, "a 200 IQ"6.67 above0.0000000013 percentabout 76 billion
2201995, Rose Blumkin8.0 above0.00000000000006 percentabout 1.6 quadrillion

Read down the last column and the pattern is plain. His 1998 comparison used 80, 100 and 140, which sit where the scale is well populated, and 125 and 130 correspond to roughly the top 5 and the top 2 percent. By 160 the arithmetic puts a person at about 1 in 31,574. By 200 the normal curve gives about 1 in 76 billion, a rarity larger than the present world population, so a "200 IQ" or a "220 IQ" is a way of saying very bright and not a measurement. That is how Buffett used them.

Two cautions apply. The normal curve is an assumption, and the real tails of IQ distributions depart from it, so a figure such as 1 in 31,574 is the output of a model and not a headcount. Also, whether a given test can report a score as high as 160 depends on that test's own norms, a question the manual of each instrument answers. The pages on the standard deviation of 15, on how IQ scores are normed and on the IQ percentile calculator explain the scale, and the page on what an IQ of 130 means covers the band he used as his lower comparison.

8 Why does a market change what an IQ gap is worth?

A remark about a 130 and a 160 compares people who have already passed through selection and who compete with each other, and in that setting the link between IQ and results can look weak even when IQ matters in the wider population. Two separate ideas are folded into the sentence, and Buffett supplied both himself.

The first is competition. In 1998 he posed a thought experiment: if 500 cloned copies of Jack Welch ran every Fortune 500 company, would returns on equity for American business be higher? He suggested not necessarily, because of "a self-neutralizing effect", like 500 expert chess players in one tournament, where there are still many losers. He drew the lesson for securities markets: it is far better to have a hundred IQ when everyone else has an 80 than 140 when everyone else has 140. His 2016 letter makes the same argument with arithmetic. Active investors as a group hold about what the whole market holds, so before costs they must do about average, and after fees and trading costs they do worse than passive holders. He writes that the smart people running hedge funds largely cancel one another out, so that "their IQ will not overcome the costs they impose on investors." This is a claim about the aggregate of a zero-sum contest. It does not say individuals never beat the average, and it does not say IQ is useless. It says the edge in a contest is a difference between you and the other players, not your level.

The second idea is selection, and it is statistical. A well-known problem, set out in a typology of range restriction by Sackett and Yang in 2000, is estimating the population correlation between two variables from a sample restricted by some selection process. When everyone in the room has been selected on a trait, the correlation measured inside the room is not the correlation in the population, and methods for correcting it exist for that reason. Investment professionals, MBA students and fund managers are selected groups. Buffett's 2002 observation that he saw "relatively little correlation between investment results and IQ" came from such a group, and he did not claim a count. A weak relationship inside a selected group can reflect the restriction itself and not the strength of the underlying relationship.

Neither idea proves or refutes the quotation. They explain why it may be true as a statement about professionals and still say nothing about the relationship between IQ and income or occupation across a whole population, which is the subject of the pages on IQ and income and on IQ and job performance. They also explain why no single study can confirm a comparison between two named IQ levels in one profession: the groups needed, people at 130 and at 160 doing the same job, are rare, and the outcomes are comparative by construction.

9 What do studies of investors with measured IQ find?

The nearest studies find that higher measured ability goes with better investing outcomes on several measures, which neither confirms nor contradicts a claim about the gap between a 130 and a 160 among professionals. They are worth reading because they come closest to testing the quotation. All three are observational, and each has a feature that limits what it can say.

StudyPeople and outcomeAbility measureReported resultLimit
Grinblatt, Keloharju and Linnainmaa, Journal of Finance, 2011Stock market participation and portfolio outcomes, with sibling data for some testsIQ scores (the authors' related working paper, next row, describes a test given at military induction in Finland)Participation rises with IQ with controls for wealth, income and age, and high-IQ investors are more likely to hold mutual funds and more stocks, face lower risk and earn higher Sharpe ratiosAverages across a population, not a contest between a 130 and a 160
Grinblatt, Keloharju and Linnainmaa, working paper, September 10, 2009Equity return, trade and limit order book dataScores from a test given to nearly every Finnish male of draft age, two decades of dataHigh-IQ investors show superior stock-picking skill, particularly for purchases, and superior trade executionAn earlier working paper, so the later published version should be checked before relying on it
Chevalier and Ellison, Journal of Finance, 1999Mutual fund managers and their risk-adjusted returnsThe average composite SAT score at the manager's undergraduate institution, not the manager's own scoreRaw return differences were mostly explained by behavior and selection, and after adjustment managers from higher-SAT institutions had systematically higher risk-adjusted excess returnsAn institution average is a rough proxy for ability

Three readings follow. The first is that the population-level link is positive on these outcomes. The 2011 authors report the pattern after controls and with sibling comparisons that they argue address omitted family factors, though sibling designs do not make a study experimental. The second is that Chevalier and Ellison's own abstract is a lesson in caution: most of the raw differences between managers could be explained by behavioral differences and selection biases, and the difference that survives concerns the average SAT of a school.

The third reading is the one that matters for the quotation. Nothing in these studies compares a 130 with a 160 inside one profession, and nothing in them measures the temperament Buffett describes. They are consistent with a world in which IQ helps on average and extra points above a threshold add little, and they are consistent with a world in which it keeps helping. Buffett's claim, the studies, and the selection logic of the previous section are about different comparisons. The pages on IQ and income and on IQ and success cover how large the general associations are, and why a group result is not a forecast for one person.

10 Is rationality the same thing as IQ?

Cognitive psychology supports the narrow form of Buffett's point, that many thinking biases are unrelated to measured cognitive ability, without supporting the broad form, that ability does not matter. In 2008 Stanovich and West reported seven studies in which a large number of thinking biases were uncorrelated with cognitive ability (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 2008). The list includes the conjunction effect, framing effects, anchoring effects, outcome bias, base-rate neglect, myside bias and the sunk-cost effect. In a further experiment they found that cognitive ability did correlate with avoiding some other biases: denominator neglect, probability matching, belief bias and matching bias on the four-card selection task. They then offered a framework for predicting when ability will and will not correlate with a rational thinking tendency.

Buffett's remark of 2020 that IQ "does not always translate into rationality and behavioral success or wisdom" fits the first half of that result. So does a recurring example of his, the senior people at Long-Term Capital Management. In the 1998 Florida lecture he said they had "a great reliance on mathematics", and in 2019 he said he and Munger had seen "really extraordinarily high-IQ people" destroyed by leverage (2019 morning session). That is one episode told by one observer, and the explanation, leverage and over-reliance on models, is his own reading.

Two gaps remain. The experiments measure performance on reasoning tasks, not the steadiness under social pressure that Buffett calls temperament, and nothing cited here measures that. The second gap is that biases unrelated to ability leave room for ability to matter elsewhere, and the second result of Stanovich and West points the same way. Standard IQ batteries sample abilities such as fluid reasoning (Gf), crystallized knowledge (Gc), working memory (Gwm), visual processing (Gv), quantitative knowledge (Gq) and processing speed (Gs), and they were not built to measure temperament. The page on what IQ measures lists those abilities, and the pages on critical thinking versus intelligence and on the cognitive reflection test show how rationality-style tasks differ from the items of an IQ battery.

11 What does the documented record show, and what can it not show?

The record documents a long and specific career and some early history in his own words, and none of it can be converted into a score without assumptions the record does not contain. The table sorts the main biographical claims by who documents them.

ClaimWhere it is documentedEvidence class
Bought his first stock, three shares, at age 11His answer at the 2005 meetingSelf-reported, decades later
Read Graham's The Intelligent Investor as a student at the University of Nebraska, which he dates to 1949 and to age 19His answers at the 2002 and 2005 meetingsSelf-reported, decades later
After Columbia Business School, pressed Benjamin Graham for a job and worked for him for a couple of yearsThe 1998 Florida lectureSelf-reported
Compounded annual gain of 19.7 percent in Berkshire's per-share market value from 1965 to 2025, against 10.5 percent for the S&P 500 with dividends, and an overall gain of 6,099,294 percent against 46,061 percentBerkshire's letter for 2025, signed by Gregory Abel on February 28, 2026Company-reported
An IQ score of any kindNo source locatedNot documented

The company figures are a record. The early history is memory told decades later, and it is consistent across the 1998, 2002 and 2005 tellings without being independently confirmed here. Three things the record cannot show matter more than what it can. First, it cannot separate skill from capital and time. A gain compounded over six decades reflects duration as well as skill, and the table's last figures are the product of both. Second, it cannot separate skill from luck, and Buffett does not try. In 1999 he said he "won the ovarian lottery", and in the 1998 Florida lecture he described that lottery as deciding things like being born in the United States or Afghanistan and "born with an IQ of 130 or an IQ of 70". In that account the lottery includes cognitive ability, which complicates any story in which temperament alone does the work. Third, one record is one record. It is not a comparison between people with a 130 and a 160.

For those reasons this page does not estimate his IQ from his wealth, his record or his habits. The same rule governs the other founder pages, on Gates, Jobs and Bezos: a career is evidence about a career. It is not a test result.

12 What should a reader take from this about measuring their own IQ?

A famous cutoff cannot tell you whether your own score is enough, because a quotation about one activity is not a validated interpretation of a score, and professional standards ask for exactly that validation. The Standards for Educational and Psychological Testing, published by AERA, APA and NCME in 2014, ask that each intended interpretation of a score be clearly stated and supported by validity evidence (Standard 1.0). They ask that test users receive clear explanations of what a scale score means and what its limits are (Standard 5.1), and that released results describe in simple language what the test covers, what scores represent and how precise they are (Standard 6.10). The claim that a 125 is enough for investing is not an interpretation that any test states or supports.

The APA Ethics Code bears on the Buffett question directly. Standard 9.01(b) asks psychologists to give opinions about the psychological characteristics of individuals only after an examination adequate to support their conclusions. When that is not practical, they document their efforts, clarify the effect of limited information and limit their conclusions. Standard 9.01(c) covers record reviews and asks them to explain the sources of information their conclusions rest on. A psychologist following that code could say a good deal about what Buffett has said about IQ, as this page does, and nothing about what his IQ is.

The practical advice is to ask of your own result what the standards ask of any other: which test, which norm group, which date, and how much error. ACIS sells a paid assessment, so treat this paragraph as a disclosure. The report gives a Full Scale IQ and six primary indices on the standard scale with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15, with percentiles and a 95 percent confidence interval, and adult norms cover ages 16 to 90. The forms and prices below were read on October 6, 2026 and can change. Quick costs 15 dollars for 6 subtests in 3 domains and takes about 45 minutes, Optimized costs 30 dollars for 13 subtests in 5 domains and takes about 110 minutes, and Full Scale costs 50 dollars for all 20 subtests in six domains and takes about 175 minutes. Payment is one time with no subscription, breaks are allowed, there is a free trial with no card, a 5 day quality guarantee and 30 days to complete.

The limits are plain. ACIS is online and unsupervised, it is not a clinical or diagnostic instrument, it is not for hiring, school accommodations or admission to high IQ societies, and it is available in English only. It measures cognitive abilities and not temperament, risk tolerance or investing skill. The technical manual holds the documentation, and the page on reliability and validity explains how to read it. No ACIS statistic is quoted here. For choosing a test, the comparison of the best online IQ tests and the guide to an IQ test for adults apply the same questions, and the page on what an IQ score means covers interpretation.

13 Sources Behind This Page

Every quotation and figure above is traceable to one of the following, and each is linked at the point where it is used. The rarity table is our own arithmetic on a normal curve with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15, and the counts of IQ mentions come from our own text searches on October 6, 2026 of the sources listed first.

14 Frequently Asked Questions

What is Warren Buffett's IQ?

Nobody knows, because no IQ score for Warren Buffett appears in any source searched for this page, whether from a test or from his own statements. Listing sites print 150 or 155 without naming a test, date or examiner. What exists is a record of his remarks about IQ.

Has Warren Buffett ever taken an IQ test?

No test result for him is documented in the transcripts, letters, lectures and interviews searched, so the record cannot answer. A school or employment test could exist unpublished. When his partner joked about his IQ at the 2015 annual meeting, Buffett asked that they not quantify it.

Is Warren Buffett's IQ 160?

No source shows that. The 160 comes from a quoted comparison with a hypothetical guy with a 160 IQ, from his remark in a 2011 interview about selling 30 points, and from a 1997 book. In each case 160 illustrates a very high score and is not a result for him.

What did Warren Buffett say about IQ and investing?

He said repeatedly that investing needs modest intelligence and a strong temperament, meaning realism, discipline and emotional control. In 2005 he put the level at 125, and in 2009 he said an investor with a 150 IQ could sell 30 points. He also said very high IQ people can fail through leverage.

What is the Warren Buffett 160 IQ versus 130 IQ quote?

The line says investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beats the guy with a 130 IQ, and that rationality is essential. It is printed in Janet Lowe's 1997 book Warren Buffett Speaks. The occasion where he said it was not found in the transcripts searched.

What does "sell 30 points" of IQ mean?

It is Buffett's joke that an investor with a very high IQ can give up 30 points and lose nothing, because the work does not need them. He said it in 2009 about a 150 IQ and in a 2011 interview about a 160 IQ. It is a figure of speech, not a rule.

Does Warren Buffett think a high IQ is needed to invest?

He says a great IQ is not needed. In 2002 he said so directly, and in 2009 he said an investor must be reasonably intelligent but not a genius. He has not said ability is irrelevant: in 2005 he said a person wired with an IQ of 85 would do far less well in a market economy.

When did Buffett say that IQ above 125 is not needed?

He said it in the morning session of the 2005 Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting, in an answer giving advice to young investors. His words were that above 125 IQ you can throw away the rest of the points, because the work requires qualities of temperament more than qualities of intellect.

Where does the guy with the 160 IQ line first appear in print?

The earliest source found is Janet Lowe's Warren Buffett Speaks, published by John Wiley in 1997, which prints the sentence in several places. The Internet Archive copy could be searched only in snippets, so the endnote naming the occasion was not seen.

Did Buffett write about IQ in his shareholder letters?

Rarely. Of the 48 letters posted for 1977 to 2024, only those for 2007 and 2016 contain the letters IQ. The 2016 letter repeats a Munger line about a manager with a 160 IQ who thinks it is 180, and says smart hedge fund managers largely cancel each other out.

What did the 1999 BusinessWeek page say about IQ?

BusinessWeek Online of July 5, 1999 printed sayings drawn from a reporter's notes. It says success in investing does not correlate with IQ above a certain level, printed as 25, and that ordinary intelligence plus the temperament to control the urges is what is needed. The 25 is probably a dropped digit for 125.

What did Charlie Munger say about 160 and 130?

At the 2009 meeting Munger said that thinking your IQ is 160 when it is 150 is a disaster, and that a 130 who operates well within himself is much better. Some pages merge remarks like his with Buffett's. Buffett's 2016 letter repeats a related Munger line about a manager with a 160 IQ.

What do studies of investors find about IQ and performance?

They find a positive link on some outcomes. A Finnish study reported that higher IQ investors were more likely to hold stocks and funds and earned higher Sharpe ratios, and a study of fund managers found higher risk-adjusted returns for those from higher SAT institutions. Neither compared a 130 with a 160 inside one profession.

How rare is an IQ of 130 or 160?

On a normal curve with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15, an IQ of 130 is reached by about 1 person in 44 and an IQ of 160 by about 1 in 31,574. That is our arithmetic on a model, and real tests may not report scores that high.

Does Buffett's view mean IQ does not matter for success?

No. His claim concerns one activity, investing, above a modest level, and he made it from experience and not from a study. The wider evidence on IQ, education, income and job performance is a separate question, and group averages do not forecast one person's outcome.

Can you estimate Warren Buffett's IQ from his wealth or record?

No. A long investment record reflects capital, time, luck, opportunity and many abilities, so it cannot be converted into a score on a scale with a mean of 100. Buffett himself said he won the ovarian lottery. A number derived from a biography is a guess, not a measurement.

Does an IQ test measure temperament or rationality?

Not directly. Standard IQ batteries sample abilities such as fluid reasoning, crystallized knowledge, working memory, visual processing, quantitative reasoning and processing speed. Research on rational thinking found that many thinking biases are unrelated to cognitive ability, so rationality and temperament need other measures.

Should I use Buffett's 125 or 130 as a target for my own score?

No. His numbers are figures of speech that changed from year to year and described one activity. No study cited here supports 125 or 130 as a cutoff for investing or anything else. A score has meaning only relative to a stated test, norm group and margin of error.

How accurate is a single IQ score?

Every score carries measurement error, which is why a good report gives an interval and not only a number. The Standards for Educational and Psychological Testing ask that interpretations describe how precise scores are. A reported 130 should be read as a range around it.

What is a reliable way to learn my own IQ?

A professionally administered test, such as a Wechsler scale given by a qualified psychologist, is the reference standard. Online tests vary widely, so look for stated norms, a reported percentile and confidence interval, and published documentation, and remember that unsupervised online scores are not clinical results.

Does ACIS measure investing ability or temperament?

No. ACIS reports a Full Scale IQ and six index scores covering verbal comprehension, fluid reasoning, quantitative reasoning, visual spatial ability, working memory and processing speed. It does not measure investing skill, temperament or risk tolerance, and it is not a clinical instrument.

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